Mary Matalin and David (47%) Corn clash over torture & Ukraine. He argues that the Senate-CIA imbroglio is unprecedented and tied to a continuing CIA coverup of Bush-Cheney water-boarding. She condemns anyone calling that “torture” because it wasn’t “and it worked.” Then, in the Russia-Ukraine crisis, Mary disparages Obama abroad as a “joke” while David laughs that off given Bush’s embrace of Putin and war policies. Last: perhaps Mary meant that Obama told jokes on Between Two Ferns. 

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